tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55394494064236001922024-03-06T01:45:18.451-05:00Milonguero's RoomInheriting the tangoKumihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586600347946222274noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539449406423600192.post-17064774447531026202010-12-16T00:03:00.006-05:002010-12-16T14:14:02.885-05:00Interview Six: DJ Mario Orlando<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6YtMDcIs-_BkxVhgMH1G-rnqIFyDxBB6ys1nE5UydYcbsRDCci_YOrJX1saHSIjEPi6G7qP7Kp2Q7rbODmZmRHIscMRUhwydWwnHz-toYKFvv1LtAk5PzKsa_ryd3NeR97IZ5hB5ek4Q/s1600/161430_1302081705_2867342_n.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="133" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6YtMDcIs-_BkxVhgMH1G-rnqIFyDxBB6ys1nE5UydYcbsRDCci_YOrJX1saHSIjEPi6G7qP7Kp2Q7rbODmZmRHIscMRUhwydWwnHz-toYKFvv1LtAk5PzKsa_ryd3NeR97IZ5hB5ek4Q/s200/161430_1302081705_2867342_n.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="MsoNormal">Mario Orlando is one of the most recognized Tango DJs in Buenos Aires. This day, I didn’t have an appointment to have an interview with him but he spontaneously accepted by Carlos Matera who is the organizer of Sunderland kindly offering. The time was right after I interviewed Graciela and Carlos Matera, and the night was about to start. People started to come into the milonga, eating, greeting with people, not much dancers on the dance floor yet. I wanted to interview a DJ also, so this was a wonderful bonus, and he gave us a very interesting talk.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
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</div><div class="MsoNormal"></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. How long have you been a DJ?</span></span><span style="color: #cf61ff;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"> I have been DJing more or less 30 years. In here (Sunderland) I’ve been DJing about 10 years. There is a place I’ve been DJing for more than 15 years.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. When you provide music, how do you decide which music to play?</span> </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"> The music that I play is adapted by the style of the neighborhood. Each neighborhood has its own style and steps are different. What distinguishes the style here (Villa Urquiza) is elegance and steps are long. There are places like in Center (central area of down town BsAs) that I play faster rhythmic tangos, like D’Arienzo, Biagi, Rodoriguez. Certain music is not as popular as other clubs. For example, when I play Rodoriguez in here, they would dance to it, but they are not very happy, because it doesn’t conform the style they dance. Here what they like is Tanturi, Calo, Troilo, Di Sarli, D’Agositono, I put a lot of Di Sarli here. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">The music that I’m playing now is a new Orchestra with a style of Di Sarli. It sounds like Di Sarli but it’s a new group by younger people with it’s own personality. What I try to do is to put some new music so people would get used to slowly. I keep the tradition but at the same time I do adapt to the new people, new milongueros. I up date repertoire but keep the night on the tradition.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. Do you change music by seasons?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"> Not exactly by the seasons, but the season changes the crowds and I change the music by the crowds. For example, in the low season which usually happens in April ~ August, the mood changes in milongas, because there are more locals and not many tourists. Also there are times when we have more people from Europe, Japan, or the US. So I change the music by the people and the atmosphere.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. Do you find local people and foreigners have different taste in music?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">I think foreigners are more open-minded. Argentineans tend to dance just 5 orchestras, and no more. That’s all they want to hear. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">When I started traveling abroad to DJ, foreign DJs asked me “you don’t know this music?” It’s not that I don’t know, I have the music but I don’t play it because people wouldn’t dance to it. With foreigners I need to be more open-minded. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">When I play music I always try to put lots of energy into the music and I find foreign DJs don’t have much energy in their music.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
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</div><div class="MsoNormal">I think in tango, there’s always been a great attachment in terms of music. For example the milongueros in the '30s, they were used to the music of the '30s, so when the music of the '40s came around, they said “No, you can’t dance to it” because it was not familiar to them. But obviously the same thing happened in the '50s. A lot of orchestras came out in this period, for example, D’Angeles. People called carousel music. It was not accepted because they didn’t recognize the music the way they adapt dancing.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. In general do DJ people dance tango?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"> No, the majority does not dance. They can’t dance. But I think that is a big mistake, not being able to dance as a DJ. I’ve been dancing for 25 years. I dance and DJ Salsa, too. I like other styles as well. I used to DJ Disco, weddings, different kinds of parties and events. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. What was it like DJing for other events? </span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">It gave me flexibility to be very energetic in my music. For example, you are in a wedding party with the moment when everybody is eating, I noticed that DJs would put music that are very very relaxing, like elevator music. The music was too quiet it made people to sleep. By the time people started to go dancing, they were too relaxed, it was impossible to move and dance. <span style="color: #cf61ff;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">(Laugh)</span><span style="color: #cf61ff;"> </span>So what I did was to put the music that people used to dance ten years ago while they were eating. By recognizing the music, people would get into the mood. I had different ways to put people to get up. This is the way I kept to make people get up and dancing in Tango.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">So you need skills to observe people in many different ways.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">I think that the DJ is the psychiatrist of the dance floor. Not of the individuals but of the dance floor. Once I was invited to give a talk about the anthropology of the dance floor, by a friend of mine who is an anthropologist. Because in tango, there are different characters. For example, the people go dancing in the afternoon are different from the people in the evening. Tango people in the afternoon are the people who have problems, coming from lost in time. They come to dance to be released, to forget about their troubles. People who go out in night, they only want to have good time. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">Q. How do you find being a DJ?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">There was a milonga that I was DJing for 11 years. One night I was passing music of Canaro from 1927. The floor was very packed, because the music was so beautiful. People were complaining because the floor was so packed they couldn’t move. There was a woman who was dancing, and when she came around me she says “Take away this music, it’s depressing me.” I said “Well, I am very sorry about that but I am the DJ not your psychiatrist.” Obviously they were complaining that they couldn’t dance. (laugh)</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">This job is very stressful. I have various friends who stopped working as DJ because it’s very difficult. People are never happy, always criticizing you. You can never please everybody. It’s very thankless job.<br />
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"Mario Orlando is my real name, not an artistic name."<br />
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<div class="MsoNormal">The following Thursday, I went to El Arranque the afternoon milonga (Central BsAs) and accidentally met him again. He asked me, “do you find the difference in music?” Yes, I heard more rhythmic music, a lot of D’Arienzos <span style="font-family: Wingdings;">J</span> and the steps were smaller. He was in a T-Shirt more relaxed atmosphere and it made me more relaxed too. <o:p></o:p></div>Kumihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586600347946222274noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539449406423600192.post-46550428995565374912010-03-20T01:12:00.001-04:002010-12-16T00:00:18.812-05:00Interview Five: Sunderland Club "La Milonga del Mundo"<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi5pNgT37TI8ebaxZM7fh6II0BkTk40kPt7G-8i0k7d6UWFrM0bcUqymqEilsu3DlLzrTXJ-zvq35kOaVa7pWvXyOIHh7ddt_wbRJgi2LSkpi6hj3JCb6L_rsOfElwgyotVmezolNz8IN0/s1600-h/IMG_0339.JPG" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="text-decoration: none;"></a><br />
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</span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is an interview with Graciela and Carlos Matera, the organizers of the Sunderland Club "La Milonga del Mundo". Sunderland Club is one of the most important and respected milongas in Buenos Aires, located north of the capital in the neighborhood of Villa Urquiza. This milonga is held every Saturday night. I asked and arranged an appointment for an interview before the trip and Graciela and Carlos kindly agreed to see me and to do the interview. The interview was done one hour before the milonga, on December 12, 2009.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When was this club found?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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The Sunderland Club is a social club and it was found 93 years ago. The milonga started in 1940s.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Are you the founder of this milonga?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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The founder was a tango lyricist. His name is Mario Battistella.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When did you start organizing this milonga?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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We started about 10 years ago. There were many others after we lost Battistella . The name "La Milonga del Mundo" ("the milonga of the world") represents us. And it's been about 10 years now. The name of the milongas has always been Sunderland Club since Battistella, but "El Mundo" means us.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">What is the intention behind this name "El Mundo"?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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Because all the greatest dancers, like Gavito, Gloria and Eduardo who brought tango to the world they all started from this club.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I hear Sunderland is a different kind of institution, created by this neighborhood, "Villa Urquiza". It is not the same as rest of the milongas. What does it mean?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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Because this club created quantity of important dancers, such as; Finito, Petroleo, Portalea Villarrazo, Lampazo. These are the older generation. And for the next generation there are Balamaceda, he's not from Urquiza but he was here to dance, Gavito, Zotto, Rivarola, Maria, Gloria and Eduardo. They all came out from this club.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Did all these dancers' parents danced in this club too?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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No, no. Not in every case. There are families like Misse, all the children dance professionally but their parents don't dance tango. Javier Rodriguez comes here to dance but he's parents are not tango dancers.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">So this area just happened to create good dancers?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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No, because there were many great dancers in other neighborhoods also, but in this neighborhood, Villa Urquiza created the strongest dancers and many of the good ones brought more good ones. It didn't happen accidentally. There was a cause. This was in the golden age of tango. These dancers were identifiable, and created different styles. The styles were based on walking. It happened because of this big space also.</span><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Were there many milongas in this neighborhood back then?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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There were many, many others.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">And only this milonga remained?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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Only this and Sin Rumbo. There are still many more social clubs remaining now, but the milongas didn't remain.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Do you know why, this club remained?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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It's a mystery. This place doesn't have any special ambiance, no luxuries, nothing special. Somehow it happened. It's a strange thing that some places put lots of effort to put beautiful floors or curtains, but they don't succeed. It's just a magic that happened here. It's something that we can not explain. We don't even do much publicity. All we do is to put fliers on the table announcing who's performing next week.<br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Were you open in the 70's?</span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">No, it was the years during the dictatorship. All the milongas were closed that time. It was reopened in the 80's. I don't remember exactly which year.</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Did you dance back then?</span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Yes! Yes, we did! We had private events more than anything that time. With people who could not stay without dancing, we got together like 20- 30 couples. We ate and danced together every weekend.</span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Do you have the same DJ all the time?</span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Yes, we have the same DJ, Mario Orlando for 10 years since we started. Would you like to interview him also?</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- Yes, I would love to! Thank you.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
</span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">What is the most important thing as an organizer?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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To meet the people that come. We give the vibe, warmth, make sure they are comfortable as they were at home. Give personal attention, welcoming. Of course provide good music... etc.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">As being organizers, what kind of changes do you see over these years. I think tango has been changing and what kind of changes do you see as organizers?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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Yes, yes. There are changes. There are, and the changes are made by younger people, the younger generation. There are changes in Tango but I believe here in Urquiza, we are keeping the tradition within the club. We are always going back to the roots of the tango.<br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The part of the reasons I am doing this, is because I think there are so many foreigners now than before, and I feel the increase of the foreigners is also creating the changes in tango. By us not knowing the codes or not understanding the essence, I'm afraid we are breaking tango into something else. I want to give the message to the foreigners that there are many other things we should know when we are dancing tango. I believe all foreigners wish to dance authentically. It doesn't mean we don't care. We want to know. We are simply ignorant about these matters. I wonder if you could kindly give us how you feel about foreigners' behaviors that seem to be trouble, so we can learn and dance better. </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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What I see all the time is, I see people (foreigners) want to learn very much, but they don't pay attention to the sensibility of the dance. All they want to learn is the mechanical part.<br />
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To talk about the codes, when they dance on the dance floor, they are not aware of other couples. There's no attention, no care to the other dancers on the dance floor. They go one way, then go to the other way, those dancers are thinking only about themselves. No manner. Passing, crossing other couples, these are rude. Also not having an embrace, to be open, that is a part of the problems causing traffic on the dance floor. Because embrace is the transmission.<br />
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</span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">W</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">hen I go to milongas now, I feel I see elder people retired which is the majority, many tourists, and some young Argentinean people who are professionals.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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Yes, I know what you mean. Right now actually there are more teachers than students. So many maestros. Most of them are maestros on the dance floor.<br />
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Before people were just dancing for their own pleasure. Nobody thought they can make money or become professional by tango.<br />
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Before people learned from each other. They tried some figures, while other people were watching, then you try to do it yourself with someone at the corner, it was not something that you pay, or charge money to teach. Men practiced with men. There were practicas which was done only by men, because women were taboo. Women were not accessible back then. Also the difference in the old days, the good women dancers were called good "accompaniment", because the figure of women in relationship were more complicated. Now the women are dancing their parts, not only accompanying men.<br />
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Our wish for the tango is to grow more and to be known around the world. World means in many different ways. To all kinds of cultures and people. To become more and more popular and be adopted in different cultures, but adopted in the right way, without changing it's nature. Now, there are many places they dance tango, but they are dancing it without understanding the roots and the tradition.<br />
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We wish tango to become more popular but with respect and understanding the roots of the tango, and not become something else. Keep dancing in the traditional way.<br />
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</div></div>Kumihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586600347946222274noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539449406423600192.post-60444348747867800482009-12-04T02:13:00.000-05:002013-02-10T22:45:05.697-05:00Interview Four: Carlos and Rosa Perez<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgP-mfmRJU9q_tsJW5ts2SRiGGPljeqUdeZ_G6IqyAWTQeNZI5akuwcj1FrlE-ocv1aFYDcQlek5WED9r3JuEAVFH2GwCMnr0cu7d_hVVSKk6pE4cJwwUKMrIv5F2WxaRURG85GieQqW8/s1600/cyr+photo+grey.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406124244986403522" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgP-mfmRJU9q_tsJW5ts2SRiGGPljeqUdeZ_G6IqyAWTQeNZI5akuwcj1FrlE-ocv1aFYDcQlek5WED9r3JuEAVFH2GwCMnr0cu7d_hVVSKk6pE4cJwwUKMrIv5F2WxaRURG85GieQqW8/s400/cyr+photo+grey.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: left; height: 168px; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; width: 400px;" /></a>Carlos and Rosa Perez are dancers who have maintained the style of the traditional tango rooted from the 50's. They have been teaching at the Club Sunderland and the teachers of the world Champions, including the 2009 Salon Champion, Kyoko and Hiroshi Yamano.<br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Dear Kumi</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">After returning from Austria, Denmark, Germany, London and Italy and now getting ready to leave for Canada. I fulfill my promise to answer your questions. I am not too fond of writing, I prefer to have a conversation about these themes. The "Gab" is more to my liking but because the distance between us is far, and out of respect to yourself and the readers of “El Cuartito de los Milongueros" here goes:</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">CARLOS PEREZ:</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">I began dancing in 1952. I learned mostly by practicing among fellows that were much older than I from 10 to 15 years my seniors. Very well known milongueros from that time. Later one would dance in the dozens old neighborhood/barrio clubs that were around in old Buenos Aires at that time, where the music of the tango was queen and the majority of the public chose it.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Rosa started years later, in her home, practicing with her older brothers whom where the ones that later took her out dancing one Saturday.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">We stopped dancing around the year 1964, when we were wedded. In that instance it wasn't well looked at to dedicate ourselves to tango as a way of life and we decided to place all our energies in forming our family.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Around this time there were only few places where to go dancing, there weren't that many venues available and they were frequented by older more advanced dancers. The younger community of dancers danced jazz, American boogie, (Swing Dance) and studied a lot of Tap. Later came a style of Swing dance from Italy that wasn’t as popular but was the precursor to Rock-n-Roll* that set fire to our Argentine youth (still danced today in Argentina as well).</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">We began dancing professionally again in 1994 (because socially in family get together we always continued to dance). It just so happened that one day I went to visit the person that showed me my first steps of tango, Jose "Lampazo" Vazquez a great dancer and teacher. He held us dear because we were once neighbors during my youth and my first teacher. In that chance meeting was born the club "Sin Rumbo" and my relationship was very warm as it has always have been with the maestro and friend.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Later on and suggested by him, we began going to the classes as a pastime for enjoyment. But shortly after, Jose began feeling ill and having health issues and asked us to replace him in his classes. This is how we reunited with the Tango dance.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">A few years passed and we suffered the lose this great dancer and friend, Jose "Lampazo" and so we took over the classes he was teaching in "Sunderland" in Villa Urquiza" by the request of the Directive Commission of the Club.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">This is how we started again our dedication to the teaching of tango dance. It was just by coincidence that we had the luck of maintaining the roots in the tango traditional. It had already been almost 30years that we haven’t danced nor were contaminated in the milongas during that time. All of our moves responded to the decade of the 50's and that was a great attraction to the youth (and not so young) to ask for more classes with great enthusiasm.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">How many years do you dance with Rosa? My entire life, from the time we were very young we have been sharing life and the tango. We came to the tango during the 50's with the passion and happiness that was of that era and with our own youthfulness.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Not one of the old "Milongueros" had any expectations, never thought of having any economic income with tango. With this I would like to say that in that era that no one got to travel because of tango. We danced it for the love of the music and as a form of conquest.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Dancing for us was a form of connecting with a girl and then the conquest. This is the reason we began to push ourselves to dance better each time and immerse our presence.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The first time we traveled because of tango was to Paris. We gave classes for a period of two months. Later on came an avalanche of trips and performances: Challiot Theater of Paris, Parco de la Musica Rome, Teatro Colon Buenos Aires, theaters in Tokyo, just to name a few. We also were filmed in a few movies and documentaries for Television.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">As I have been told by my elders, tango had its greatest height in the 40's and 50's.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">With the pass of time that same tango was danced more delicate and elegantly. A lot of emphasis was given to the elegance in Salon style tango.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">One would dance at house parties (without cortes or quebradas, very respectfully) in neighborhood/barrio clubs, generally on Saturdays or Sundays would be frequented by neighborhood girls always accompanied by a mother or older brother, because arriving alone was frowned upon.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The music that was listened to during my time in the 50's was music that was played by live orchestras. Di Sarli, D'Arienzo, Pugliese , Canaro , Troilo, Calo, and many more.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The classic neighborhoods/barrios were one would dance would be Saavedra, Urquiza, Villa Pueyrredon, Villa Devoto, Villa Real, Paternal, Villa Mitre and other all around the capital. South of the capital they would dance a different style much more brisk what they call Tango Orillero.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Some dance halls and dancers that I remember are some of the ones that danced "50's style"(please forgive me if I forget to mention someone, I am a man getting on in my years and there are a few things that escape me)</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Salon Agusteo, El Palermo located on Oro and Santa Fe, La Argentina, Alumni in Urquiza, Sin Rumbo, Viento Norte, Estudiantes de Villa Devoto, Moran, Glorias Argentinas, Floresta Junior, La Emiliana, Mitre, Sunderland, Pinocho, 17 de Octubre, California, Penacho Azul, Juventud de Belgrano, Excursionista, Chacarita Juniors, Villa Sahores and many more. Milongueros I must name Jose Vazquez "Lampazo", Osvaldo Mosi "El Nene", Mingo Canonigo, Gerardo Portalea, Eduardo Pereja, Maita, Gallego Villarrazo, Frasquito, Petroleo, el Jorobado Victor, Negro Luis, Tomas Luis, Luis Lemos “Milonguita”, Juan Carlos Copes, Rogelio “El Tio” and many more that I do not recall their names but were as great a dancers as the best in town.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">In the 50's the Tango was one of the alternatives a youth had for his enjoyment, just as much as looking for girl, because back then that was no easy task.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The Tango was danced with a lot of feeling/emotion. The lyrics of the songs were things that happened to each of us in daily life, the street lights, the cobble stone streets, the love for the mother, love for the girl, a Buenos Aires lost in time.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">We all respected the codes inside the dance, we all stayed in the line of dance, even if they weren’t the great milongueros. at the same time the majority heard the music with the same critic, even though the floor was packed one could enjoy. It was rare to see couples colliding, it was actually frown upon.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The actual tango itself has evolved a lot I reckon. Because of other popular dances it has added elements such as movements from other dances, for instance the contemporary classic and others. Some to me seem very pretty and others I think deviate from its essence. Of course one must understand that things change and the young people always need to create something new.. that is all fine.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">According to tango historians tango has its origins in afro influences where Candombe then el milongon and la milonga, the tango orillero, canyengue, salon style and lastly tango <leo_highlight id="leoHighlights_Underline_0" leohighlights_keywords="fantasia" leohighlights_url="http%3A//thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/highlights/keywords?keywords%3Dfantasia" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_0')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_0')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_0')" style="-moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; -moz-background-origin: padding; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); cursor: pointer; display: inline;">fantasia</leo_highlight> from the 50's I believe were the beginnings of Stage Tango.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For us, Tango meant something very special, always it was and in this chapter of our lives gives us permission to move to its rhythm of its music, embrace one another and turn back time enjoying its melody.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">It allows us to meet people from different regions of the world, transmitting our traditional tango to the young of all ages and classes and besides being able to travel around the world where they cheer us with affection and respect that we have sown the seeds during all these years. It maintains us active and happy.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">We have lived moments of intense happiness when we saw our students win in distinct world competitions and more so see them grow as dancers and persons traveling the world taking our popular music with a little bit of us with them. This is beautiful!</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">If anyone were to ask me what one needs to be a good tango dancer I would say that they have to begin by learning the roots of this dance because in another way they could be good dancers but not good tango dancers, or else it becomes a dance that is done on tango music.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">And on top of all that you have to keep in mind a popular saying "lo que natura no da, Salamanca no presta"**.. that is to say some have a special gift to overcome and some will never have it, just like with everything in this life.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: ArialMT;"><span style="font-size: medium;">**lo que natura no da, salamanca no presta - What nature doesn't give you, Salamanca(a city) wont lend.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: x-large;"><i>"And in Argentine Tango, </i></span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- What is Code? From the previous interviews, we've been hearing a lot about "Codes".</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> I thought it meant simply general manners, rules..., but I feel there's more in it.</span></span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;">- In Japan, we have different ways of speaking, when you speak to your parents, or to your friends, teachers, younger brother, we have different languages to use.</span></span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Is code something similar to that?</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Yes, that is it.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It is the respect.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The only ones that know about the respect are the people who are involved.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Most of the young people now don't know </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">important dancers from before.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">So there's no relationship.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Now e</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">verybody is from outside.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That's why we say, "they don't have code".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They don't have the code that we used to have before.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Even in Buenos Ares?</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> I'm talking about in Buenos Aires.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">There's no more code.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It doesn't exist anymore.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The best way to learn the code is to be with old people.</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- When was the most exciting time in tango for you?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">"Tango Golden Age"</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Now is the Golden age, because, you know why?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because I can appreciate tango more.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Now I can say I understand Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"> - And how many years did it take you to understand tango?</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> When you are 20, you think you know well, but when you turn 30 you think you know better.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It comes with experience.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It comes with the history of your life.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is my second time marriage, I've been through many things, now I know what heart ache means. I have many bruises, and now I know what bruises feel like.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">And when I listen to tango lyrics, it says exactly how I am feeling now, and I get so amazed "how do you know exactly how I feel!?" I say to myself "he is talking about me". And at the same time that is happening the same with other people. (laugh)</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;">- So do you think Tango lyrics are very important part to dance tango?</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">We have a word in Spanish "confidence", we use like "I have confidence in you". When you have a good friend, you say I have confidence in you.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">In tango, "having confidence kills the respect".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you have a very good friend and you know the person so well you lose the respect to the person.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you dance with someone you know for a long time, it starts to become a routine, little by little.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You know what this person is going to do so well, you stop paying attention. Some people they dance the same song with same person all the time. Nothing new, nothing fresh. But when you dance with someone new, you need to be alert and really feel the person, and be fully present for the other person. That's why I like to I keep changing partners all the time.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I dance with different people, to keep Argentine Tango fresh and new.</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- About older people dancing, you said that when you see them dancing you can see so many things.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Do you see it even when you are watching in internet?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because I cannot see it.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Do I need to see them in real? Or do you see it even with videos?</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Well, you have to see it in a different way.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You need to try to see who that person is.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You need to think what kind of life they had, what kind of things they went through, you just don't see it in the movement, it's a different way of seeing.</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> At the end they start to do what they want to do.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But in their mind, the young kids, what do they think?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Do t</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">hey think about the economy? about the future? No, they don't care. They just want to play. They want to have fun and party everyday. They are not thinking about paying bills, raising kids, so many things that you get later. They don't have different kinds of heart broken experiences.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Everything starts to change when things happens to you in your life.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> There may be a young and mature kid, or there maybe an old person but immature. It d</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">epends what kind of life, depending what happened to you in your life, makes the difference.</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- ...I cannot see that.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I can feel that.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When I dance together.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I can feel that.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That is why I like dancing with old people.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But I don't see it...</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Fantasia is like Carlos Copes.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It's a stage.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Salon is very simple.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It is very elegant, subtle, and simple.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Just to get you an idea, how dizzy people get, here and all over the world.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">To dance Salon is just to walk.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Not even cross (5).</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That is Tango Salon.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">What people dance now is not salon, what people dance now is Tango Pista and they think they are doing Tango Salon.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Usually what people dance in milonga is Pista when they do steps.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Before it was only walking.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Salon is only walks no figures.</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;">- And what is Tango Pista?</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">- When I take lessons with the very top world class dancers and say "Milonguero" or "Urquiza" they usually all stop me and say, "don't make things complicated.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is Argentine Tango".</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I feel they don't like us talking about styles.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> Yes, it doesn't mean anything.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Look, every barrio has a style and every person has his own style. It's not only one specific style.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">If you put 20 couples in the same club, let's say from Urquiza.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They are all going to look not the same.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They will all going to look different. Other wise, they are all copies. They are not originals.</span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> But there is a problem with our teachers.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">We have to give you education to make you to be who you are.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> But i</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">t's completely different now.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Most of the teachers they teach you to be like them.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">So they create copies.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That is Very bad.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because instructors are like "no, this is my student, because he dances like this", that is horrible.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They are killing your life.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They don't want to kill your life but that's what they are doing.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></span></div>
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<object height="505" width="640"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6kCaivp_KQ&hl=en&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6kCaivp_KQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="505"></embed></object>Kumihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586600347946222274noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539449406423600192.post-30442424752285108522009-08-17T20:05:00.000-04:002013-04-01T03:03:06.569-04:00Interview Three: Jorge Torres (part one)<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWL7nndOWFK5EZxXF8WRf-qPkfnYtgcNffTSbkqBtjHha9Q8CutABe5JI82crTx9r7UjgUG_yp2jUk8nbx0QlhyzpUYoP29NRTc4It1HTVCxVDU1yGsEACfIlFfpPNmuAUqu9RsU7gy3Q/s1600-h/Copy_of_300dpiem.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5371507926392795746" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWL7nndOWFK5EZxXF8WRf-qPkfnYtgcNffTSbkqBtjHha9Q8CutABe5JI82crTx9r7UjgUG_yp2jUk8nbx0QlhyzpUYoP29NRTc4It1HTVCxVDU1yGsEACfIlFfpPNmuAUqu9RsU7gy3Q/s400/Copy_of_300dpiem.jpg" style="cursor: hand; cursor: pointer; float: left; height: 224px; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; width: 400px;" /></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: medium;">Jorge Torres is a world-renowned Tango Choreographer, Dancer, and Impresario of dance productions. As Dance Captain of “Forever Tango ”, Creative Director of The Shimmy Club Inc., Juror of the tango championships, Artistic Director of the American Tango Institute, he is constantly touring across the USA, Asia and Europe, teaching and inspiring others in the art of Argentine Tango. He is also a husband and a father.</span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I have been dancing from 3, performing since 5 years old.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I started as a dancer, studying Folclore Argentino, Ballet, Flamenco and Tango Argentino, because my teacher wanted me to become a dancer.</span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My teacher's name is Norberto Guichenduc.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He is a very important person in my life. He taught me everything.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He taught me about how to be a dancer, how to respect the dance, about life, about everything.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He taught me so much, and started to spend time with him more than my father, he became my second father, and then became my mentor.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He is 72 years old now. I still see him when I go to Argentina.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He was a principal dancer in the Colon Theater, he danced ballet, folclore, flamenco, tango and he was a pianist too.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He did everything perfect, as a teacher, as dancer, as a person.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">He was living in Europe, but he returned to Argentina, in the early 70's and some how he moved into my neighborhood.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My neighborhood is a very small town and nobody knows why he moved there.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But that's how I met him and he taught me to be a dancer.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">After studying with him until I was 10 years old, I joined Ballet Forclorico Nacional for another 10 years, until 20 years old.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When I was in school, there were many classmates who danced much better than I did, but many of them couldn't continue because their parents couldn't pay the tuitions.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">If they continued, they would have become much better dancer than I am now, but everybody has different life.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Fortunately, my parents were able to pay for my lessons.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They worked very hard and kept me to finish the school.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I finished the school and I joined the Teatro Colon Ballet de Refuerzo.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">After I joined the Colon, the singer Libertad Lamarque (a female singer level of Gardel) asked me to work for her show.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That's how I started to perform as a tango dancer. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It wasn't my choice.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My teacher taught me all kinds of dances.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When we first learned tango, we were only 8 or 10, any kind of dance was fun, it was like a game.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">We've been performing since we were very young, I've been performing since 5, so for us, we never thought about "becoming a professional dancer".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It was a natural thing to become a dancer; there wasn't a day or a moment that we decided "to become a dancer".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">We were dancers already it was a natural thing. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">After I became 20 years old.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because I was performing, teaching, and studying all different kinds of dances at the same time, I was very busy, I had no time for myself, no time to sleep.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Working hard pushing myself, pushing and pushing, so crazy because I was young I had no limit to push myself.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Yes, at that time I only had 3 hours of sleep a day.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Working so hard, I had no private life, not even going to disco with the guys. Only work.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">5. What did you think about Milongas when you first been there?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I thought it was mysterious groups of people, like a mafia.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Being at your seat was the safest place.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">And you had to sit very very low. Because you cannot see anything when you stand up.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Everybody was smoking cigarette so much, the room was filled with smoke, all white.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The air was so bad and you cannot see anything.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">So you sit very very low, to avoid the smoke.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That was the safest place to be.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">6. When did you start going to Milongas for your own joy and not as a job?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I think it was after I decided to do Tango only.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I dropped ballet, quite the rest of the dances and really became Argentine Tango dancer only.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because I realized Tango was the best way for me to express myself.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It was easier than ballet or Argentine Folclore. I felt the most comfortable for me.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It was after my 20 years old.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">7.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Do you consider yourself as a Tanguero or Milonguero or just simply a dancer?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Originally I am a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I am 42 years old and I danced for 39 years.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My life is about to be a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Also, because of my training of my teacher, he wanted me to be a dancer in life.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I became a dancer naturally.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But Milonguero.... Milonguero is to be not something nice.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Long time a go, to be a Milonguero was to be someone who doesn't know anything else, he doesn't work, have no money, only about girls and night.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Longtime ago, if you call "Milonguerito" it meant something like an insult.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">With years, with tango business, to be a milonguero became a business word.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Now we have Milonguero style, Milonguero this, Milonguero that for business, also another word of Milonguero, from the exact translation just means simply a person who goes to Milonga.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Do I consider myself as a Milonguero?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">No, forget it!</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Milonguero was something horrible.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I enjoy the feelings of something that keep surprising me, and they keep me feel ticklish in my blood asking me to dance.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Even you know all the songs or what ever, one mood comes into me in a specific way.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That makes me want to dance again.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You know when you are in milongas and you are ready to leave, then you hear a song and you go back to the dance again?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It's like food.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You thought you were full and you don't want to eat any more, and then you see this dish and that dish?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(chocolates, cakes?)</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Even you don't want to, you do it anyway. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">For me, the most important thing is to get the feeling of two persons, women and man dancing.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">They used to call me "a man who dances".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I want to feel like a man who dances.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because I am a dancer all my life, I don't want to "look like" a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I want to look as a man who is dancing with a woman together.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">That is the most important thing that what I dance.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I don't like to be looked as a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I like to be more real, like a man who dances.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The pleasure of the silence and the heart beat.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It makes you go inside of people, inside of your partner, go inside of your body, not out side.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">More you are inside, the rest is beautiful.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You can feel everything.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Elegant is simply about your being.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Are you elegant or not?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(He picks up a salt shaker in front of him and says) look, do you think this is elegant? No, right?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is not elegant.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is just an ordinary shaker, but if you go to an expensive elegant restaurant, everything you see is elegant.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You just know what is elegant or not.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Well, old days in Argentina, people were elegant.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">For example, the other day at the championship, everybody dressed very elegant.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Usually they are never in suites.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Why did they wear suite that day?</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Because they want to look elegant!</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But they only wear suite for that day, so they look fake.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I have two passions in my life, other than my family.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Tango and Martial Arts.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Even when I'm sleepy or tired, if somebody is talking about tango or martial arts, I wake up.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Boom!</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Even I'm so dead tired.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">No, I think... it's all in Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Tango in general.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I love tango in many ways.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I like to really feel in Tangos.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I was born in 67, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I missed everything in the golden age.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I was not part of that.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I missed all that. So what I try to do is from my point of view, from my age.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I live in New York and I'm not in Argentina all the time to get the feeling from the older people. Because I think you can also ask older people and to talk to them.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But to me, the result is when you see them dancing.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you see them dance, you can see so many things.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you really see them, you can really squeeze them. When you really see them, like their faces, you can see their life as a reflection in their dances. And they don't care who's watching them. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Most of the young people, they are more so worried about what people think or what people say. They are not honest with themselves. You know when you are in love. You don't want to eat, you don't want to sleep, it's "magical".</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You don't care what people think.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">For me beauty is that something like that.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">13. You often say, "You have to be honest to yourself".</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Are you saying it as a dancer?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">As a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">First of all as a dancer.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But also as a human being.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You have to be honest to yourself because we are all affected by the society.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Let's say you wanted to eat a cake, but you think people think you are fat, so you only order tea.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You change your decision because what people think of you.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You actually wanted to do this but you don't do it because of other people.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">And that happens exactly the same in tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Instead of what you really wanted to do, you do what society tells you to do.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you dance, you can not think about who's looking, think what people would say, or think I have to do this way.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">When you dance so close to the person, it starts to become a relationship with yourself.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You have to be honest to your self.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It is about relationship with your self.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">What I try, is to give knowledge to people.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My main focus on the people is to be an educator.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I believe all of us, we need to find a right guide to guide you.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">If we train you in a right way, with a right knowledge, you can become something positive for Argentine Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">But if I train you in a wrong way or just to do steps, we keep collecting garbage instead of improving Argentine Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">"We need good dancers", it doesn't matter which countries.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is something I say to all the students.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">"WE need good dancers" otherwise Argentine Tango is going to die.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It will be garbage.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I am very interested to train people how to express themselves easily, to understand what tango means, how to respect themselves, how to respect the person in your arms, how to listen and to understand the music and many other things.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">It's not that you just put the music and go.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">You need to "learn". This is our responsibility, to try to make people understand.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This is kind of work I want to do, giving knowledge, about life, about dance, about music, and everything.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> ~ Continuing to Part 2</span><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">http://inheritingthetango.blogspot.com/2009/08/interview-three-jorge-torres-part-two.html</span></div>
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He has been performing and teaching since then. He had tango schools with Antonio Todaro for 17 years, and taught many important dancers as, Roberto <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">Reis y Guillermina Quiroga,Gabriel Angio, Natalia Gamez, Carlos Copello, Alicia Monti, Julio Mendez, Ricardo Gallo, Pancho Martinez Pei, Pedro Calveira, Nora Robles, Alejandra Arruè y Sergio Natario, Gabriela Elias y Eduardo Perez, Stella Barba, Cristian Marquez y Virginia Gomez, Hernan Villegas y Gladis Colombo, Emiliano y Debra, German Cassano , Giraldo Diomar, Eduardo Sotelo, Miguel A. Plas,</span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">Rodolfo Ruiz, Pablo Villarraza</span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">, Lalo y Mirta, Holanda, Sandor y Miriam, EE.UU. Julio Mendez y Ana, Ruth Manonella y Andreas Erbsen, Gustavo Rosa.</span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;font-family:Times;"><div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;font-family:Times;"><div style="border-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 3px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; width: auto; text-align: left; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Georgia,serif;font-size:100%;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; font-family:Georgia;"><br /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204); font-style: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:large;">1. How long have you been dancing tango?</span></span><br /></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I have danced professionally for 50 years and I continue to teach.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">In total 55 years.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">2. What was tango scene like when you started?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">When I started dancing Tango the scene was different compared to today.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">You learned Tango for the love of it, today the majority of the youth get into Tango because it is a source of work, at least in Argentina.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">3. How were the ratio of men and women back then? </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The percentage of men to women, in that time, (the past) was very even, although there were always more women than men.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">4. To be able to dance in Milongas, did everybody take lessons at the beginning, like we do here in NY? In average how long did leaders take lessons and about how much money did they spend?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">What is the value in this time?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">What about yourself?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Did you go take lessons?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">There were always schools, but you would teach in the clubs, between friends, practice between men, in academies, which were many.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The capacity depended on each individual.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">To learn to dance was from the heart and not about business.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">It was more for fun than a profession.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">It was not about making money. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I took my first Tango steps with teachers who taught me the basic, their artistic name Los Hermanos Gianelly (the Gianellly Brothers) and they were from Galvez, ( Santa Fe).</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I learned what my friends taught me, and my training was too short, in one year I was dancing professionally.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">5. We hear leaders used to sit and watch a lot.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">(Unfortunately this does not happen in NY)</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">How long did they watch in average?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Days? Weeks? Months?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">And you? What did you watch, what movement did you pay attention and for how long?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Yes it is true, you would observe to learn, and to respect your colleagues, the necessary time needed for each individual, everyone was not the same.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">To know the ambiance of a Milonga,</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">it was necessary to know those whom were very respected, those who danced</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">the most, those who thought the most, because the ambiance of the Milonga today</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">is not the same as the past, it is completely different.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The man is different he is not the same, the woman neither, the codes were very important, there were rules that you had to respect, the man the role of macho, and the woman her femininity.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">My observation was that of a common Milonguero, respect and be respected, I was very respected for my conduct, everyone in their place.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">6. Do you remember when you first asked a lady to dance?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">How did it go?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">NO, no I don't remember. Too many years have past in my life and many dancers that I can not say.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Of Course that when one dances for the first time, you feel nervous and things turn out more wrong than right.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">7. I heard that in old days men practiced with men.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Did you practice with men too?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Or is that something happened way back in the past?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">If so which decade was that?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Yes, I learned with men and I would go to practicas between men.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">One of the places that I practiced was "Deportivo de Barraca" it was on Velez Sarfield street at 300.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">And other places I don't remember the locations, in Pompeya in the club "Flecha de Oro" (Golden Arrow).</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The Tango and the practica craze were in the 50's and 60's.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">8. In Facundo’s interview, he said Milonguero made his students walk for months.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Was the walking done alone or with a partner?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Were there more men in practicas?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Let’s see in parts, in the practicas there were no women, the ability to try to walk well in Tango was fundamental.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The ones who knew the most would insist that you practice your base and then your sequences.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The practicas were only for men, and then what you learned you would use in the milongas with women.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">9. I heard that people used to go to practicas more, and it was not popular to take workshops.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Why is that?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">No, the people would go to the Milongas in the local clubs, the mothers would bring the girls, the dances were very nice in those times, "very family oriented".</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">You would dance in the families’ houses, one week in each place, you would unite all the nearing neighborhoods, it was another time and respect was fundamental.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Workshops were referred as "academies”, but in the 40’s until the 80’s it was looked bad upon to be a tango teacher and to have academies.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I suffered many years the rejection for being a Tango teacher, primarily the society, the municipal and political authorities condemned you.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The police would treat you like a Gigolo for being a teacher and the women as prostitutes.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Thanks to the explosion of Tango in the 70’s abroad, things changed and it was recognized more as a dance.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">10. Even practicas were more popular, you have started the tango school with Antonio Todaro.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Why is that? Was the school for professionals?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Please tell me about the school.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">No, practicas were different from tango schools.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">There were no teachers in the practicas, only the ones in love of the dance and this was the best tribute that one could toast.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Dancing and transmitting what one knew to the ones that knew less.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The schools were something different, they charged a monthly fee to learn with teachers, and you paid the dancers that worked in the studio to practice.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I started with maestros in 1960 in the ACADEMIA DOPAZO located in Avenida Rivadavia 2669 Capital.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">There I met A.Todaro and we worked different schedules for 3 years.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Then we opened our own tango academies, our partnership lasted 17 years.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The first academy was TODARO-BRAVO in Rivadavia and Misiones street, the second was located Rivadavia and Rojas.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">We closed them in 1980 and we continued working separately.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">11. You are known as a master of exhibition tango dancer.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Historically, when did exhibitions in Milongas start?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Were there any exhibitions back then when all the orchestras (Di Sarli, D’Arienzo and all others) were playing in the dance halls?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Who were performing then?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I started, but I don’t know when.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">All of the sudden I was working and performing, little by little.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">My first performance was with Juan Drienzo’s Orchestra in Colombia (1960).</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Between 1955 and 1960 I had won 3 tango competitions some which lasted 4 months. The 1st organized by la Confiteria(café) “Domino” in Suipacha and Lavalle street.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The 2nd competition was in Confiteria (café) Siglo XX, in Corrientes y Uruguay, and the 3rd witch lasted 3 months “La Casa Del Tango”.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Of course all the orchestras played in cafes and clubs , the dancers in he 40’ and after , including “Tim” one of the best dancers in history, Jorge Marques y Lilian, Los Mendez, El Mixto, Lalo Bello,</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">El tarila, Lavandina, Arturito and then later came , Juan Carlos Copes, Eduardo Aquimbau, Virulazo, Todaro,</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Kalisay.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The last ones are from my generation.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">It was common to dance with a live orchestra. Some of the places still exist.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The clubs that were hired for carnivals, live orchestras were able to hold a larger capacity of people. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">12. I heard that those orchestras played around in many neighborhoods.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Did they play on weekends only, or weekdays too? </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The orchestras played generally on the weekends, in the neighborhoods or provinces close to Buenos Aires.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">During the week, they played in the Confiterias (cafés) or performed on radio stations.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">13. To have a full orchestra in the dance hall, I guess the hall had to be very big.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Do those dance halls still exist today? </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The Salons of that era, where people danced, were relatively big for the amount of dancers, who visited, let’s not forget that the population quadrupled.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">There are still Salons that are places to dance, for example:</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Salon Augusteo, Salon Reduccci, Centro Italiano, Salon San Jose, Centro de Almacenero, Centro Gallego and many more that do not come to my mind.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">14. When were Canning, Almagro, Sunderland, and all the famous Milonga started?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Did they invite the orchestras too?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">15. When did milongas start to have DJs, using recorded music?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Were they playing records?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Were there tandas and cortinas, too?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">14. – 15. Lets go by parts, Salon Canning and Almagro Club were products after the 70s,</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">not like Sunderland that was a neighborhood institution of Urquiza with many years of Tango life.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Of Course, all the Salons brought orchestras, some brought orchestras that were less popular, but with very good musicians, that later became famous and very popular.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The recorded music started after the crisis in our blessed Argentina, the budgets started shrinking for the orchestras and the orchestras started cutting down on musicians. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">The dances were overtaken by mainstream and Jazz or tropical music, and in between the sets recorded tango music would be played (a span of 30 minutes).</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">16. In the 70’s, tango was not danced much.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">Were you sill going to Milongas?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">How often?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">What kind of places did people go to dance?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">What was Milongas like then?</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"> </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">In the 70’s the tango for the milongueros never stopped, there were always milongas, aside from all the obstacles the military implemented, the tango cantinas opened up, I’ll name a few:</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">“El Plumerillo”, Cantina “La Amistad”, “La Payanca” “El Farolito”, “El Ricon De Los Artistas”, “Vostango” which we can not forget if you claim to know the history of Tango.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">In the 70s you would go dance tango and you didn’t know if you would end up in the precinct or central booking.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">17. How did tango and people come back to milongas in the 80’s?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">People began dancing Tango after the 80s because the dictatorship ended and we discovered our identity, and bye to the prohibition, enthusiastically tango places reopened and the Department of Culture recognized the music and dance.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">18. What do you like about milongas now and what do you miss from the past?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I don’t miss the pass. I lived the past and enjoyed it.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I can not give my opinion now because I don’t frequent milongas.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Maybe once in a while I’ll go because I’m invited. But not that often.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">19. How did tango changed thought out today? What do you feel about the changes?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">What changed the tango?? The tango is still tango. There are always crazy and revolutionary people in every aspect of life, but it is what it should be ….. Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">If you want to jump …jump.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">If you want to show that this dance is machismo, sweetness, passion, “show it”.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">It’s not about who does more tricks or the one who jumps the highest, it is about embracing the body in front of you, and to feel that you are dancing.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">20. What do you enjoy the most when you dance tango?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">In my years of youth I enjoyed a lot, because I danced a little, but I felt a lot through the music of my preferred orchestras. And the tango lyrics reflected my state of being(Love), which is what one lives in there youth.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">21. Why tango is beautiful for you?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> Everything that concerns my world is in tango, it is inexplicable, love, pain, friends, dreams, dance, want etc…</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">22. What is the most important thing when you dance?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> Enjoy the music and respect the times</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">23. What makes the dance beautiful?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> Simplicity and respect everyone else on the dance floor</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">24. How could we become “Good Mironguero”?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">You are born with that, you can not teach something you are not.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">It does not matter how much you study, the impertinences, education, the importance is the values and codes.</span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">25. Is there anything else that you would like to mention to us?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">No… the tango has already been invented, we have to try to preserve it.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">26. What is your wish for the future of Argentine Tango?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> To have rational critics, musicians and dancers to represent us worldwide.</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);">27. Do you have any message to us?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I don’t give advice.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">I can only thank-you from my heart, for being a person whom reflects through our dance from New York, many hours away by plane from our lovely Argentina and whom worries about preserving the magic of Tango.</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Thanks. Thanks. My respect and a lovely hand shake.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="ListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:normal;mso-pagination:none"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">Raul Bravo</span></span></p></div></span></span></div></div></div></span></span>(Interviewed in May 2009)<br /><br /><object width="640" height="505"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kOqcHi3bY60&hl=en&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kOqcHi3bY60&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="505"></embed></object></div>Kumihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586600347946222274noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5539449406423600192.post-1817514862800067822009-08-17T20:00:00.000-04:002014-07-24T16:39:06.512-04:00Interview One: Facundo Posadas<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">Facundo Posadas is one of the few old milongueros that remain in the tango scene. He has been dancing tango since back in the 50's, which was still in the tango golden age. He may be the only Afroargentine that tours around the world, known by his dancing and teaching Tango, Milonga and Candombe.</span><br />
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<i><b><span style="color: purple; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;">"Tango is patience; tango waits; </span></b></i><br />
<i><b><span style="color: purple; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"> it’s an unattainable challenge that never ends." </span><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span></b></i><br />
<i><b><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Interviewed by Kumi, March 2009</span></b></i><br />
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<span style="font-family: Georgia; font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">How long have you been dancing tango?</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">How old were you?</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-style: normal;"> </span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">In those years people danced a lot and in those meetings. We listened to tipica</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(orchestra) and Jazz; tipica for “Tango” and “Jazz” because everybody danced that rhythm at that time. Hardly ever a Tango Orchestra was performing alone, in general it was accompanied by a Jazz Orchestra.</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">In those years, because we were so young we went dancing with a group of friends (male and female); we were not thinking to have exclusive partners or girlfriends.</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">In the 50’s and 60’s, people danced respecting the line of dance. Nobody was hardly ever pushed or tried to pass the dancers in front of them. If someone didn’t dance well people had the patience to wait until the end of the song. In those years, the codes were respected. If there was no order, it is impossible to enjoy the dance. Why do we respect the order on a highway? Not being aware of this would create a serious chaos. Well the same applies for the dance floor. Nowadays people don’t respect it and produce chaos. They don’t care to follow the codes and have no clue about dancing in the place where the couple in front of you has left the space free. In those times they did care about this. A good dancer (leader) must have enough resources to dance and not to let his partner (follower) to be hit by other dancers. This I call dancing well.</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">As the years passed we left the neighborhoods for “milonguear” (dance tango) in downtown. We went around to many different dance floors following the orchestras of our preference wherever they played. Many Saturdays we went to listen and dance with “Carlos Di Sarli’s Orchestra”. We stayed until one in the morning then immediately ran off to another place because “Anibal Troilo’s Orchestra” was playing. And another Saturday, for example, we went to see “Osvaldo Pugliese’s Orchestra” and later “Juan D’Arienzo’s Orchestra” as well, and this we called “Doblete”, (double night).</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia; font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">When was the most exciting time in the tango for you? “Tango Golden Age”</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><span style="color: black; font-weight: bold;"> </span> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My beginning in the tango scene was in the “Golden Era” with friends who were older than me. There were “reales milongueros” (real tango dancers), and if they saw that you had a real style, they would invite you to practice. But if your purpose was only to spend time there just for fun they didn’t pay attention to you. They had us walk for months, and they said to us that in order to build a solid house one must have a solid foundation. No figures or tricks. If you don’t know how to walk, to step, or to put your feet in the right places; then you will never know how to dance despite what you believe.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I have lots of memories and anecdotes of places that happened in my life. I remember that being very young I got into a cabaret called “El Dragon Rojo” (The red dragon), located at Uruguay Street between Peron and Bartolome Mitre’s streets. When I was going down the stairs, a man of my skin color stopped me, telling me that I was too young to be there. But he would go with me for some time and then I would have to leave. Imagine the jokes that people made on him because he was with a ‘negrito’ (little black). Many years later, I found out that this gentleman was “El Principe Cubano” (the Cuban prince). He accompanied Juan D’Arienzo for many years as his master of ceremonies. I also had the fortune to work with Jose Bassos’ Orchestra.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">When was the first time you traveled overseas to teach tango? And which country was it?</span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">My first trip to U.S.A. was in 1997 when I was invited to L.A. by Kobayashi who was a student and friend of Gloria and Eduardo Arquimbau and also the Director of the Tango Ballet in Tokyo. I continued my tour through Reno, invited by Alberto and Valorie. And Danel Bastone and Maria opened my door in NYC, and they made sure that I follow Bob Drosky through Montreal and Chicago to a place called “Tango nada mas” (Tango, nothing more) that was baptized by Gavito. To all these people, I owe my stay in U.S.A. until today and much more because I’m waiting for my residence and I will live my future days in North Carolina.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I enjoy everything that tango offers me, all its passion, all its melancholy, the scent of a woman’s skin, her skin through her hands and cheeks, her perfume, her heartbeat. Mixing everything at once we get a cocktail called “Sensuality”; and without this chemistry, there’s no tango. They feel the same when they are in our arms, that we have to be gentle with our marks and movements, stepping correctly and simultaneously on the beat. We must dance INSIDE THE MUSIC and not before, it’s not possible to dance and then listen.</span></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">What is “Good Milonguero”? How could we become one?</span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">To become a good milonguero, we need to respect who have more experience and not to be anxious to dance. Tango is patience; tango waits; it’s an unattainable challenge that never ends. As the years pass, we must dance with more dignity. We can’t try to imitate the young ones, we can’t do what we were doing when we were 20 years old. We should dance thinking of our dance partners; be elegant with our moves; be subtle and transmit it to the person that we have in our arms.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><br /></span></span></span></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">In tango, we talk a lot about elegance.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Could you explain what is elegant and what </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">is not? What makes a dance beautiful?</span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">How to be elegant while you're dancing means to have a good standing, to be relaxed; to step firmly and with precision; to make controlled steps and movements. We must lead our body wherever we want to go and not the other way around. It is very gratifying to see a good dancer making few figures; more than five in tango is too much. Just walk well. In the walking, one can see the elegance, and this is the most difficult thing in tango. Many people who have danced for more than 20 years do not know how to walk. They've been studying only figures, and in order to know how to walk, they will have to start all over again mending it and crossing through a long journey, erasing everything and starting from scratch.</span></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Please tell us if there’s anything else that you would like to mention.</span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">About tango wardrobe:</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">In almost every opportunity of going out dancing women prepare themselves with anticipation, making this special event a ceremony. They dress with the best they have in some cases. They choose their stockings, shoes, dresses, etc. Almost always they match colors along with perfumes and hairstyles</span><span style="color: blue;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">To dash away with her sensual legs, they wear fishnet stockings, and by the way, who doesn't want to look at them with them?</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Men used to respond with the same coquetry, it was mutual respect. Nowadays on almost all dance floors, we see some men in jeans, shirts outside the pants, and snickers. Some don't even shave and their hair doesn't look very clean, not to mention the lack of perfume or deodorant. When I started dancing I noticed that women didn't accept dancing with men who weren't neat; they gave us the example or punishment that way. We all made sure to look good and most of all to have good breath, which one cannot hide in this cheek-to-cheek dance. The way to respect our female dance partners in the good tango is to be able to never give up these essential codes. We must learn again to respect those that accompany us in our embrace; like men used to do before the codes disappeared. We should come back and be men no machos.</span></span></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><br /></span></span></span></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">In New York, we often have trouble with the “line of dance”.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Could you explain what is line of dance to us, and what are the general rules? Are there any techniques we should know, or to practice to make it happen?</span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">People on the dance floor have to respect their own line of dance; one cannot dance tango in zigzag. Imagine a highway where everybody circulates as they wish? To be able to follow the line we must stand at ninety degrees and return to the circulation, don't go any step backwards. And in very few opportunities, one could dance forward counterclockwise. I would say that there isn't any technique for this, only to be aware that we aren't alone. The dance floor is for everybody and not just for a few.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"><br /></span></span></span></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">Tango has changed since you had started dancing.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #6600cc;">How do you feel about the changes? And do you have any messages and advise for us who are continuing to carry on the culture and to dance Tango?</span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">Since I started, Tango has changed a lot. Many people in the dance halls today dance in order to be seen and neglect their partners just to show off.</span></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">These days the number of people dancing tango seems bigger. Tango went across borders. The dance made of one heart and four legs have conquered almost all societies of the world. It's wonderful how tango opened a door of communication, interlaced together without knowing the languages in order to enjoy this musical walk. It will never cease to be. Even if someone wants to change it; there will always be a milonguero defending it; is part of the culture.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I don't want to offend anyone with my beliefs or with my words; they are only supplication. From my almost sixty nine years of age,</span><span style="color: blue;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">my humble wish is to not waste it or take it for granted, or try to change it. And if you dance with respect, the tango will give you the immense happiness that you were looking for.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Love and hugs for everybody.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Forever yours</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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(Interviewed in March 2009)<br />
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